情绪价值还不够，情绪认同更重要

Hello 大家好，我是 jenny 欢迎你又一次回来收听潘琪 jenny 告诉你。

Hello 大家好，我是 jenny 欢迎你又一次回来收听潘琪 jenny 告诉你。

hey everyone i'm jason and welcome to today's episode all about emotions 对.

hey everyone i'm jason and welcome to today's episode all about emotions 对.

今天我们要讲讲情绪，特别是情绪价值。

今天我们要讲讲情绪，特别是情绪价值。

hmm so emotional value is that right.

hmm so emotional value is that right.

呃，因为这个词这两年用的很多啊。

呃，因为这个词这两年用的很多啊。

不管是你看什么小红书、抖音、社交媒体，还是我们日常聊天，就经常就会讲到，比如说什么消费购物啊，你你花很多钱买一个名牌，那其实它可能不值那么多钱，但是你买的就是那个情绪价值。

不管是你看什么小红书、抖音、社交媒体，还是我们日常聊天，就经常就会讲到，比如说什么消费购物啊，你你花很多钱买一个名牌，那其实它可能不值那么多钱，但是你买的就是那个情绪价值。

SO YOU'RE ALSO PAYING FOR THIS EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE，RIGHT？

SO YOU'RE ALSO PAYING FOR THIS EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE，RIGHT？

THE VALUE OF THESE EMOTIONS THAT COME WITH BUYING THE THING。

THE VALUE OF THESE EMOTIONS THAT COME WITH BUYING THE THING。

对对对，那今天呢，我和 jason 除了跟大家讲一下情绪价值在英语里要如何表达，我们还会分享很多英语里面和 emotional 有关的说法。

对对对，那今天呢，我和 jason 除了跟大家讲一下情绪价值在英语里要如何表达，我们还会分享很多英语里面和 emotional 有关的说法。

all right and everybody gets emotional so this should be really useful stuff.

all right and everybody gets emotional so this should be really useful stuff.

对，但是在我们继续今天的节目之前呢，还是要问一下 jason 你刚刚说什么 everyone gets emotional.

对，但是在我们继续今天的节目之前呢，还是要问一下 jason 你刚刚说什么 everyone gets emotional.

就是当我们把emotional就是这样作为一个形容词单独使用的时候，它的意思是什么？

就是当我们把emotional就是这样作为一个形容词单独使用的时候，它的意思是什么？

it kind of depends really but if you see somebody that's kind of really excited or seems like they're losing control of their emotions we can say they're being really emotional.

it kind of depends really but if you see somebody that's kind of really excited or seems like they're losing control of their emotions we can say they're being really emotional.

就是总之情绪非常丰富，非常充沛，对吧？

就是总之情绪非常丰富，非常充沛，对吧？

so it can really mean anything from 比如说你看了一个电影或者听了一个什么歌，哦，让你很感动。

so it can really mean anything from 比如说你看了一个电影或者听了一个什么歌，哦，让你很感动。

You can say oh i felt so emotional after seeing that movie 或者就是什么发脾气，控制不住自己的脾气，flipping out 那个也是 you're being very emotional.

You can say oh i felt so emotional after seeing that movie 或者就是什么发脾气，控制不住自己的脾气，flipping out 那个也是 you're being very emotional.

that's right you could be really excited you could be really sad you could be really happy a number of things.

that's right you could be really excited you could be really sad you could be really happy a number of things.

right or angry.

right or angry.

yeah even angry but losing control there is kind of the key point you're being emotional you're letting your emotions take control.

yeah even angry but losing control there is kind of the key point you're being emotional you're letting your emotions take control.

Ok ok 好，但我们今天不是要 let emotions take control of us 啊，我们要 taking control of emotion 至少要学学 emotional 这个词怎么样正确的使用。

Ok ok 好，但我们今天不是要 let emotions take control of us 啊，我们要 taking control of emotion 至少要学学 emotional 这个词怎么样正确的使用。

好，那先来看看，就是今天呃 we led it with 情绪价值。

好，那先来看看，就是今天呃 we led it with 情绪价值。

那在英语里面呢，它也是一个非常对应的说法，就是 emotional value。

那在英语里面呢，它也是一个非常对应的说法，就是 emotional value。

yeah this comes from marketing right it means those.

yeah this comes from marketing right it means those.

Feelings that customers experience or even think about experiencing when they think about buying something, right?

Feelings that customers experience or even think about experiencing when they think about buying something, right?

对，就特别是他们跟一个什么品牌接触的时候，然后呢，当一个品牌能够真的 deliver 很多附加情绪价值的时候，那消费者就愿意为这件东西花更多的钱。

对，就特别是他们跟一个什么品牌接触的时候，然后呢，当一个品牌能够真的 deliver 很多附加情绪价值的时候，那消费者就愿意为这件东西花更多的钱。

Yeah, I think of Apple right away with this, right?

Yeah, I think of Apple right away with this, right?

Where they have these super fancy, beautiful stores that are such a joy to visit, and so you get much more than the product.

Where they have these super fancy, beautiful stores that are such a joy to visit, and so you get much more than the product.

You also get this emotional experience that makes you want to come back.

You also get this emotional experience that makes you want to come back.

对对，但是呢现在 emotional value 它也可以是更广的一个范畴是吧？

对对，但是呢现在 emotional value 它也可以是更广的一个范畴是吧？

yeah you could use it more broadly about just like feeling comfortable bringing joy or even like stability.

yeah you could use it more broadly about just like feeling comfortable bringing joy or even like stability.

right嗯或者 negative emotion 也也可以啊，就如果你的另外一半，你的这个 partner 他没带给你情绪价值，或者他带给你都是负面 negative emotions。

right嗯或者 negative emotion 也也可以啊，就如果你的另外一半，你的这个 partner 他没带给你情绪价值，或者他带给你都是负面 negative emotions。

什么awkwardness, anger, embarrassment, that's that's negative emotional value.

什么awkwardness, anger, embarrassment, that's that's negative emotional value.

Yeah, it's still in the same category, but it's not positive, it's not a good thing.

Yeah, it's still in the same category, but it's not positive, it's not a good thing.

Right, right.

Right, right.

好，那讲到emotional value啊，英语还有一个蛮像的，它叫sentimental value.

好，那讲到emotional value啊，英语还有一个蛮像的，它叫sentimental value.

Yeah, sentimental value is a little bit different though.

Yeah, sentimental value is a little bit different though.

Sentimental value implies something that you are nostalgic for something from the past that you want to hold on to.

Sentimental value implies something that you are nostalgic for something from the past that you want to hold on to.

啊，ok，你说的这个nostalgic for something，就是怀旧的怀念，就这个东西，比如说什么小时候的玩具啊，或者家庭的老照片这些东西。

啊，ok，你说的这个nostalgic for something，就是怀旧的怀念，就这个东西，比如说什么小时候的玩具啊，或者家庭的老照片这些东西。

yeah，something that maybe has no monetary value，it's not worth any money，but it means so much to you，so it has a lot of sentimental value。

yeah，something that maybe has no monetary value，it's not worth any money，but it means so much to you，so it has a lot of sentimental value。

嗯。

嗯。

ok，好，那我们接下来呢，再看看其他啊关于情绪的一些说法。

ok，好，那我们接下来呢，再看看其他啊关于情绪的一些说法。

下面要看的这个是我觉得也特别重要，是情绪认同或者情绪确认。

下面要看的这个是我觉得也特别重要，是情绪认同或者情绪确认。

yes very important emotional validation.

yes very important emotional validation.

ok so when you're validating somebody's emotions and feelings 这个指的是你不一定要同意他的这种感触，但是你是愿意去理解、接纳和尊重。

ok so when you're validating somebody's emotions and feelings 这个指的是你不一定要同意他的这种感触，但是你是愿意去理解、接纳和尊重。

Yeah you are making sure that they feel you acknowledging and accepting their emotions it doesn't mean you agree but you are at least listening and understanding their emotions.

Yeah you are making sure that they feel you acknowledging and accepting their emotions it doesn't mean you agree but you are at least listening and understanding their emotions.

对，然后你不是那种去论断批评或者否定。

对，然后你不是那种去论断批评或者否定。

yeah if you were to criticize them right away and say hey you're not supposed to feel that way you have no reason to feel that way that's definitely not validating somebody's emotions.

yeah if you were to criticize them right away and say hey you're not supposed to feel that way you have no reason to feel that way that's definitely not validating somebody's emotions.

对，其实在亲密关系里面，我觉得就是经常会讲啊，就是因为男生和女生想法就很不一样嘛。

对，其实在亲密关系里面，我觉得就是经常会讲啊，就是因为男生和女生想法就很不一样嘛。

然后常常可能就会说，you know i'm not asking you to see it eye to eye with me, i'm not asking you to agree with me, i'm simply asking you to give me some emotional validation.

然后常常可能就会说，you know i'm not asking you to see it eye to eye with me, i'm not asking you to agree with me, i'm simply asking you to give me some emotional validation.

Yeah, it's like the best form of really listening, right?

Yeah, it's like the best form of really listening, right?

You hear their emotions, you tell them that you hear their emotions, you acknowledge that, right?

You hear their emotions, you tell them that you hear their emotions, you acknowledge that, right?

You've let that person feel heard, feel validated.

You've let that person feel heard, feel validated.

诶对的，然后呢还有很重要，你要懂得去辨别识别他现在处在哪种情绪。

诶对的，然后呢还有很重要，你要懂得去辨别识别他现在处在哪种情绪。

啊，so emotional recognition here。

啊，so emotional recognition here。

对，这个to recognize something意思就是哦你get你get他现在是比如是在生气，或者他只想跟你哪怕complain一下倾诉一下，他不需要你给他解决问题对吧？

对，这个to recognize something意思就是哦你get你get他现在是比如是在生气，或者他只想跟你哪怕complain一下倾诉一下，他不需要你给他解决问题对吧？

Yeah you're not trying to solve their problems right you're just trying to listen and to recognize and identify their different emotions.

Yeah you're not trying to solve their problems right you're just trying to listen and to recognize and identify their different emotions.

啊对 identify 辨别或者说 to interpret their emotional cues interpret 就是解读。

啊对 identify 辨别或者说 to interpret their emotional cues interpret 就是解读。

yeah you have to interpret nonverbal cues right because they're not words so you look at their eyes and their body language and you try to get a feel for what their emotion is going to be.

yeah you have to interpret nonverbal cues right because they're not words so you look at their eyes and their body language and you try to get a feel for what their emotion is going to be.

嗯，对。

嗯，对。

那这个呢，就需要你有蛮高的情绪智慧啊。

那这个呢，就需要你有蛮高的情绪智慧啊。

YES，EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE。

YES，EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE。

哦，我觉得这几年EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE啊，似乎取代了EQ，情商是吧？

哦，我觉得这几年EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE啊，似乎取代了EQ，情商是吧？

就以前好像十几二十年前，他一直说高EQ、高IQ什么的，现在好像就就更加重视的是这个。

就以前好像十几二十年前，他一直说高EQ、高IQ什么的，现在好像就就更加重视的是这个。

情绪智IONELL.

情绪智IONELL.

BEC WHAT FOR in USGLISH SPEAKER.

BEC WHAT FOR in USGLISH SPEAKER.

是吗所很多语语者也不这个 Q到底是哪个单词那么这个单词是什么呢。

是吗所很多语语者也不这个 Q到底是哪个单词那么这个单词是什么呢。

QUient.

QUient.

quot.

quot.

YOU JUST TH a quot BEING aBER IT'sAS YOUR score right WITH I YOU haveELLIG quot WH YOU're FING out your I IQ throughR an I test so your quot is YOUR T score I guess THEBER.

YOU JUST TH a quot BEING aBER IT'sAS YOUR score right WITH I YOU haveELLIG quot WH YOU're FING out your I IQ throughR an I test so your quot is YOUR T score I guess THEBER.

对对，所以这个 emotional intelligence 情绪智慧和 emotional quotient or eq 情商最大的区别就是情商我们就说哎高情商、低情商是吧？

对对，所以这个 emotional intelligence 情绪智慧和 emotional quotient or eq 情商最大的区别就是情商我们就说哎高情商、低情商是吧？

it's a measurement 就像 jason 说的，是一个 number。

it's a measurement 就像 jason 说的，是一个 number。

但是情绪智慧 emotional intelligence 它是更加大范围的，整个情绪的一种能力是吧？

但是情绪智慧 emotional intelligence 它是更加大范围的，整个情绪的一种能力是吧？

智慧嘛，we we think of intelligence or wisdom as something very deep and profound.

智慧嘛，we we think of intelligence or wisdom as something very deep and profound.

exactly and i think that's why having a quotient a number for somebody's emotional intelligence is a difficult thing to do it's kind of an abstract idea.

exactly and i think that's why having a quotient a number for somebody's emotional intelligence is a difficult thing to do it's kind of an abstract idea.

right 嗯，对对对，所以现在你去看很多什么 mba 的课程里面啊，他都要你学这个 emotional intelligence 做领导很重要，带团队很重要。

right 嗯，对对对，所以现在你去看很多什么 mba 的课程里面啊，他都要你学这个 emotional intelligence 做领导很重要，带团队很重要。

Especially for leaders you don't want a leader with low emotional intelligence that can be very challenging 好.

Especially for leaders you don't want a leader with low emotional intelligence that can be very challenging 好.

那接下来呢，我们要看一组对应的英语说法，一个是 high 一个是 low.

那接下来呢，我们要看一组对应的英语说法，一个是 high 一个是 low.

so now we're talking about emotional highs and emotional lows right.

so now we're talking about emotional highs and emotional lows right.

ok 那这个很容易理解啊，情绪 high 的时候。

ok 那这个很容易理解啊，情绪 high 的时候。

就是很开心很兴奋是吧？

就是很开心很兴奋是吧？

Yeah once again it's kind of like saying someone's emotional if you're on an emotional high right then you're really excited it's really intense you're happy and it's very obvious.

Yeah once again it's kind of like saying someone's emotional if you're on an emotional high right then you're really excited it's really intense you're happy and it's very obvious.

对通常你生活当中有什么特别好的事情发生了比如说加薪升职啦这种什么结婚啦或者生孩子啊这种it will send you on an emotional high.

对通常你生活当中有什么特别好的事情发生了比如说加薪升职啦这种什么结婚啦或者生孩子啊这种it will send you on an emotional high.

Yeah or even these days with social media right you post something and you get all these likes and you get an emotional high.

Yeah or even these days with social media right you post something and you get all these likes and you get an emotional high.

哦是然后呢这要注意的是它在句子里面的用法我们通常会说 you are on 啊介词是 on 而不是 in 一个什么 emotional high.

哦是然后呢这要注意的是它在句子里面的用法我们通常会说 you are on 啊介词是 on 而不是 in 一个什么 emotional high.

yeah i imagine being on like a wave of emotions almost like you're surfing or something right so you're on this wave this high wave.

yeah i imagine being on like a wave of emotions almost like you're surfing or something right so you're on this wave this high wave.

波浪对对对。

波浪对对对。

然后呢，也别忘了那个 article 冠词，你前面要加 a an 因为 emotional 的 e 是元音。

然后呢，也别忘了那个 article 冠词，你前面要加 a an 因为 emotional 的 e 是元音。

嗯，that's right don't say on a emotional high right you have to say you are on in emotional high 对.

嗯，that's right don't say on a emotional high right you have to say you are on in emotional high 对.

而且你也不能直接说 i was on emotional high 就一定要 i was on an emotional high 对。

而且你也不能直接说 i was on emotional high 就一定要 i was on an emotional high 对。

That's right once again with the waves you have different waves coming in at different times so you're on one of them you're on an emotional high 对对。

That's right once again with the waves you have different waves coming in at different times so you're on one of them you're on an emotional high 对对。

或者像 jason 刚刚说的 something will get you an emotional high 会给你一个，对吧？

或者像 jason 刚刚说的 something will get you an emotional high 会给你一个，对吧？

hopefully hopefully a good thing 对.

hopefully hopefully a good thing 对.

好，那我们来看看它的 opposite 对立面就是 emotional low.

好，那我们来看看它的 opposite 对立面就是 emotional low.

Yeah, and this is when you're feeling down, sad, pretty obvious, right?

Yeah, and this is when you're feeling down, sad, pretty obvious, right?

When you're unhappy, you're on an emotional low.

When you're unhappy, you're on an emotional low.

对，那用法也一样啊，on an emotional low 是吧？

对，那用法也一样啊，on an emotional low 是吧？

yeah, you could even say in with this one.

yeah, you could even say in with this one.

I think because it's low, it kind of has that feeling that you're like sinking down and inside something.

I think because it's low, it kind of has that feeling that you're like sinking down and inside something.

So it would probably be okay to say in an emotional low too, i think.

So it would probably be okay to say in an emotional low too, i think.

Oh ok 哦那如果一会儿 emotional high 一会儿 emotional low 情绪大起大落那就像过山车一样。

Oh ok 哦那如果一会儿 emotional high 一会儿 emotional low 情绪大起大落那就像过山车一样。

oh boy yeah an emotional roller coaster.

oh boy yeah an emotional roller coaster.

ok 我觉得最近啊被你们川普搞的这个 stock market 股票股市。

ok 我觉得最近啊被你们川普搞的这个 stock market 股票股市。

全世界吧。

全世界吧。

啊对对对然后看的大家都是这个 recent developments in stock markets have set many investors on an emotional roller coaster 是吧？

啊对对对然后看的大家都是这个 recent developments in stock markets have set many investors on an emotional roller coaster 是吧？

Yeah, I think sometimes they wake up to an all-time low and they go to bed when it's a little higher.

Yeah, I think sometimes they wake up to an all-time low and they go to bed when it's a little higher.

They wake up it's low, so it's up and down and up and down.

They wake up it's low, so it's up and down and up and down.

就是情绪像坐过山车啊，好，所以我们中文会说你的情绪像坐过山车，so we actually use the verb to take or ride and roller coaster。

就是情绪像坐过山车啊，好，所以我们中文会说你的情绪像坐过山车，so we actually use the verb to take or ride and roller coaster。

但是在英语里面你可以说什么 I'm riding on an emotional coaster roller coaster 吗？

但是在英语里面你可以说什么 I'm riding on an emotional coaster roller coaster 吗？

You could say that, but it might sound a little weird because emotional roller coaster is such a set phrase at this point.

You could say that, but it might sound a little weird because emotional roller coaster is such a set phrase at this point.

Ok, got it.

Ok, got it.

好，那接下来我们要看的这个词啊，它用的是包袱啊，很重的包袱来形容情绪上要让你有压力或者让你有创伤的东西。

好，那接下来我们要看的这个词啊，它用的是包袱啊，很重的包袱来形容情绪上要让你有压力或者让你有创伤的东西。

So for this you can say emotional baggage.

So for this you can say emotional baggage.

Ok, so baggage, 这个常常在机场什么托运看到是吧？

Ok, so baggage, 这个常常在机场什么托运看到是吧？

Luggage, baggage 这种。

Luggage, baggage 这种。

Yeah it's like the stuff you have to take with you everywhere you go so your emotional baggage right it's your history of maybe your emotional problems or traumas or something like this right and you're carrying it with you all the time like a suitcase.

Yeah it's like the stuff you have to take with you everywhere you go so your emotional baggage right it's your history of maybe your emotional problems or traumas or something like this right and you're carrying it with you all the time like a suitcase.

对，通常emotional baggage都是负面的吧，比较negative的。

对，通常emotional baggage都是负面的吧，比较negative的。

Yeah when we talk about emotional baggage it's almost always stuff that you maybe you wish you didn't have to take with you and stuff that's affected you negatively.

Yeah when we talk about emotional baggage it's almost always stuff that you maybe you wish you didn't have to take with you and stuff that's affected you negatively.

that's right 对因为 baggage 包袱是很重的嘛，所以它是给你有很多 burden 有很多负担，对吧？

that's right 对因为 baggage 包袱是很重的嘛，所以它是给你有很多 burden 有很多负担，对吧？

yeah exactly it's like an emotional burden.

yeah exactly it's like an emotional burden.

对，所以我们常常用到的一个动词就是 to carry 背着这个包袱。

对，所以我们常常用到的一个动词就是 to carry 背着这个包袱。

That's right you could say you know she's carrying a lot of emotional baggage due to her previous relationship 啊.

That's right you could say you know she's carrying a lot of emotional baggage due to her previous relationship 啊.

对，这很常见啊，过去的关系会给我们带来情感情绪的包袱。

对，这很常见啊，过去的关系会给我们带来情感情绪的包袱。

好，但是希望我们都能甩掉这些包袱，是吧？

好，但是希望我们都能甩掉这些包袱，是吧？

we can discard do away with these emotional baggage 然后呢，我们都能拥抱，然后也发现，然后也 develop.

we can discard do away with these emotional baggage 然后呢，我们都能拥抱，然后也发现，然后也 develop.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right.

Our emotional baggage is often holding us back, right?

Our emotional baggage is often holding us back, right?

So it's good to face it, learn from it, and move on.

So it's good to face it, learn from it, and move on.

Get rid of that burden, right?

Get rid of that burden, right?

Yeah, do we deliver emotional value to you?

Yeah, do we deliver emotional value to you?

I hope so, yeah.

I hope so, yeah.

Oh, I truly do.

Oh, I truly do.

然后我想告诉大家，you guys，大家的收听，大家的支持，deliver full emotional value to Jason and myself.

然后我想告诉大家，you guys，大家的收听，大家的支持，deliver full emotional value to Jason and myself.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right.

It goes both ways, right?

It goes both ways, right?

Not only do you listen and hopefully get a sense of emotional value from us, we get the same thing from you, and that's why we do this.

Not only do you listen and hopefully get a sense of emotional value from us, we get the same thing from you, and that's why we do this.

好，那我们今天的节目就到这儿，非常感谢您的收听啊，还想听到我们聊什么内容呢？

好，那我们今天的节目就到这儿，非常感谢您的收听啊，还想听到我们聊什么内容呢？

都希望大家在留言专区跟我们分享。

都希望大家在留言专区跟我们分享。

好的，下次再见。

好的，下次再见。

OK，we'll see you next time。

OK，we'll see you next time。