有一种感觉，AI陪伴无法真正取代

Hello 大家好，我是 jenny 欢迎你又一次回来收听潘琪 jenny 告诉你。

Hello 大家好，我是 jenny 欢迎你又一次回来收听潘琪 jenny 告诉你。

Hi everyone i'm diana welcome back to.

Hi everyone i'm diana welcome back to.

another episode 那前阵子呢，我在看一篇公众号的推送啊，它的标题叫做有一种感觉比被爱更珍贵。

another episode 那前阵子呢，我在看一篇公众号的推送啊，它的标题叫做有一种感觉比被爱更珍贵。

oh interesting so there is a feeling even more precious than being loved and what would that be.

oh interesting so there is a feeling even more precious than being loved and what would that be.

这种感觉就是被。

这种感觉就是被。

被理解。

被理解。

being understood or being known so.

being understood or being known so.

that got me thinking 英语里面也有很多非常好的说法来表达我理解你，我懂你这个 idea.

that got me thinking 英语里面也有很多非常好的说法来表达我理解你，我懂你这个 idea.

exactly because at the end of the day to be loved is to be known that's probably one of my favorite quotes that i've seen floating around these days.

exactly because at the end of the day to be loved is to be known that's probably one of my favorite quotes that i've seen floating around these days.

好，那 why don't we start there 就是大家最熟悉的 understand i understand you.

好，那 why don't we start there 就是大家最熟悉的 understand i understand you.

right so you can use this to just convey that you understand how someone's feeling what they're going through and you are there for.

right so you can use this to just convey that you understand how someone's feeling what they're going through and you are there for.

them 很多时候 you don't need them to really agree with you you just want them to understand what you're feeling 是不是？

them 很多时候 you don't need them to really agree with you you just want them to understand what you're feeling 是不是？

Right right or you just need them to listen and hear you out and just let you ramble or vent and just be there.

Right right or you just need them to listen and hear you out and just let you ramble or vent and just be there.

understand 大家都应该很熟悉，也会用啊，但比较想 focus 的呢，是它的被动形式，那就是 being understood.

understand 大家都应该很熟悉，也会用啊，但比较想 focus 的呢，是它的被动形式，那就是 being understood.

hmm hmm or feeling understood.

hmm hmm or feeling understood.

对，被理解 being understood 真的很重要，所以中文我们讲理解万岁嘛，那戴安娜英语里面可以直译，直接翻译过去吗？

对，被理解 being understood 真的很重要，所以中文我们讲理解万岁嘛，那戴安娜英语里面可以直译，直接翻译过去吗？

this is like long live understanding.

this is like long live understanding.

yeah.

yeah.

long live probably probably not how you would translate it but you could say understanding is everything or.

long live probably probably not how you would translate it but you could say understanding is everything or.

Or even understanding is paramount.

Or even understanding is paramount.

paramount 就是最重要的，最嗯核心的是吧？

paramount 就是最重要的，最嗯核心的是吧？

the most important 嗯哼。

the most important 嗯哼。

但我也很喜欢那个 understanding is everything 就是用了一个很 very simple word but you're conveying this idea 这个是最重要的。

但我也很喜欢那个 understanding is everything 就是用了一个很 very simple word but you're conveying this idea 这个是最重要的。

in fact it's everything.

in fact it's everything.

right hmm yes that's true.

right hmm yes that's true.

嗯，好，那当然 the opposite 啊，就是我们想避免的就是，you feel like no one understands.

嗯，好，那当然 the opposite 啊，就是我们想避免的就是，you feel like no one understands.

you hmm right or even feeling misunderstood 或.

you hmm right or even feeling misunderstood 或.

者有的时候被冤枉，that's probably what is the worst feelings.

者有的时候被冤枉，that's probably what is the worst feelings.

right right 但是呢。

right right 但是呢。

希望我们可以消除误解，然后达成共识，互相的理解。

希望我们可以消除误解，然后达成共识，互相的理解。

Right, so you would attempt to resolve any misunderstandings and achieve mutual understanding.

Right, so you would attempt to resolve any misunderstandings and achieve mutual understanding.

Right 好，那看完了这个词以后呢，我们接下来所有这一组啊，都是用到一些非常简单的动词，不是直接 understand 理解。

Right 好，那看完了这个词以后呢，我们接下来所有这一组啊，都是用到一些非常简单的动词，不是直接 understand 理解。

但是他们表达的意思是一样的。

但是他们表达的意思是一样的。

比如说下面这个。

比如说下面这个。

i get you。

i get you。

I get you 那英语里啊，这个我觉得很短的一个 get 但它有的时候也会很困扰我们，因为它的 meaning 它的意思实在是太多了。

I get you 那英语里啊，这个我觉得很短的一个 get 但它有的时候也会很困扰我们，因为它的 meaning 它的意思实在是太多了。

right that's true in a general sense you would say i get you to say i understand where you're coming from um i get what you're like i get you as a person.

right that's true in a general sense you would say i get you to say i understand where you're coming from um i get what you're like i get you as a person.

我觉得是既是脑子，like intellectually they know why you're thinking this way they know how you think but also like almost emotionally 这种直觉上的，instinctively instantly they get you 那种，就理性和感性，sense and sensibility 就都有。

我觉得是既是脑子，like intellectually they know why you're thinking this way they know how you think but also like almost emotionally 这种直觉上的，instinctively instantly they get you 那种，就理性和感性，sense and sensibility 就都有。

right and a lot of times you know these kinds of people become really quick friends because you are very similar and that's why you get each other.

right and a lot of times you know these kinds of people become really quick friends because you are very similar and that's why you get each other.

You can also say like oh we.

You can also say like oh we.

click click 就是我们两个就真的能对上啊。

click click 就是我们两个就真的能对上啊。

yes 好，但是呢，在用 i get you 的时候留意两点啊，第一个就是不能把它作为 passive 被动的那个。

yes 好，但是呢，在用 i get you 的时候留意两点啊，第一个就是不能把它作为 passive 被动的那个。

前面我们讲 i understand you or you feel understood 但这里你不能说 i feel gotten 是吧？

前面我们讲 i understand you or you feel understood 但这里你不能说 i feel gotten 是吧？

right or i feel got um that is.

right or i feel got um that is.

Going to be, it's it sounds weird.

Going to be, it's it sounds weird.

That's not what we would say.

That's not what we would say.

I think another thing to keep in mind is if you say i got you, it is a different meaning than i get you.

I think another thing to keep in mind is if you say i got you, it is a different meaning than i get you.

So i got you means more like, oh, you have someone's back, they can count on you for support or sometimes you can even say like, oh, it's my treat.

So i got you means more like, oh, you have someone's back, they can count on you for support or sometimes you can even say like, oh, it's my treat.

I got you.

I got you.

哦，就是我请客是吧？

哦，就是我请客是吧？

i got you。

i got you。

或者就是 like i got you back，像你说的，我支持你，和那个 i get you，我懂你，还是有区别的啊。

或者就是 like i got you back，像你说的，我支持你，和那个 i get you，我懂你，还是有区别的啊。

好，那这一点大家注意。

好，那这一点大家注意。

ok，那除了这个 get 以外呢，我们还可以用一个很简单的动词来表达我理解你，那个就是。

ok，那除了这个 get 以外呢，我们还可以用一个很简单的动词来表达我理解你，那个就是。

This very simple phrase you can say is just, i know you.

This very simple phrase you can say is just, i know you.

And you could also pair that with other things, like, i know how you like your coffee.

And you could also pair that with other things, like, i know how you like your coffee.

I know you hate messes, so i tidy it up before you got home.

I know you hate messes, so i tidy it up before you got home.

Things like that.

Things like that.

And you could even say to someone like, i know you like the back of my hand, meaning you really truly thoroughly know this person.

And you could even say to someone like, i know you like the back of my hand, meaning you really truly thoroughly know this person.

哦，就好像它是你身体上的一部分是吧？

哦，就好像它是你身体上的一部分是吧？

like i know you like i know the 就像我自己很了解我的手长什么样子。

like i know you like i know the 就像我自己很了解我的手长什么样子。

exactly yes you know them so well they're like a part of you 好的。

exactly yes you know them so well they're like a part of you 好的。

那我们接下来的这个呢，我很喜欢，因为我们两个是 podcasters 嘛，我们的听众一直在听我们，所以这我们就是用到了听。

那我们接下来的这个呢，我很喜欢，因为我们两个是 podcasters 嘛，我们的听众一直在听我们，所以这我们就是用到了听。

Yes you could also say i hear you .

Yes you could also say i hear you .

但是我又想到又有点 confusing 了，我们的听众啊，是我们的 listeners they're listening to us 但我们这用的是 i hear you not i'm listening to you 这个英语里面也是有区别的，right？

但是我又想到又有点 confusing 了，我们的听众啊，是我们的 listeners they're listening to us 但我们这用的是 i hear you not i'm listening to you 这个英语里面也是有区别的，right？

Right, so with listen, it's more like the act of hearing someone.

Right, so with listen, it's more like the act of hearing someone.

You can listen to music, but you would never say i hear music.

You can listen to music, but you would never say i hear music.

But when you say i hear you, as opposed to i'm listening to you, it also means you are actively trying to understand where someone is coming from.

But when you say i hear you, as opposed to i'm listening to you, it also means you are actively trying to understand where someone is coming from.

对，就是 i hear you 这里不光是你要听，而且还 kind of includes understanding.

对，就是 i hear you 这里不光是你要听，而且还 kind of includes understanding.

or at the very least you are trying to understand where they're coming from 更.

or at the very least you are trying to understand where they're coming from 更.

多的是那种倾听，so it's like a very deep communication deep connection if you say i hear you right.

多的是那种倾听，so it's like a very deep communication deep connection if you say i hear you right.

嗯嗯，yes。

嗯嗯，yes。

好，那这个 i hear you 这个是可以用作 passive 被动形式的。

好，那这个 i hear you 这个是可以用作 passive 被动形式的。

right？

right？

yes，you can say i really want to be heard。

yes，you can say i really want to be heard。

you could also say you do or don't feel heard。

you could also say you do or don't feel heard。

oh，i finally feel heard。

oh，i finally feel heard。

if you want to thank someone after they have listened.

if you want to thank someone after they have listened.

To everything you've said and you know you feel like they really heard you out you can just tell them thank you for hearing me out.

To everything you've said and you know you feel like they really heard you out you can just tell them thank you for hearing me out.

to hear someone out 我觉得这他也带着一种，就对方很耐心。

to hear someone out 我觉得这他也带着一种，就对方很耐心。

yes for sure they took the time very patiently hear you out yes 那在那样的一个情况底下呢，我觉得真的就是因为他们看见了你。

yes for sure they took the time very patiently hear you out yes 那在那样的一个情况底下呢，我觉得真的就是因为他们看见了你。

嗯，yes so you can also say i see you or yeah i feel seen seen 对.

嗯，yes so you can also say i see you or yeah i feel seen seen 对.

所以这样我们用的动词就是 to see 啊，这里的 see 呢，更多的是我看见了你的 inner you 里面，your inside 是吧？

所以这样我们用的动词就是 to see 啊，这里的 see 呢，更多的是我看见了你的 inner you 里面，your inside 是吧？

Yes yes not their face or who's sitting in front of you but what and how they're thinking how they're feeling you see their perspective.

Yes yes not their face or who's sitting in front of you but what and how they're thinking how they're feeling you see their perspective.

或者有的时候一些比较内向 like quieter more introverted 这样的人，就他很容易被人忽略 ignore dismiss 这时候如果 someone 真的对 sees them 这个是 very meaningful。

或者有的时候一些比较内向 like quieter more introverted 这样的人，就他很容易被人忽略 ignore dismiss 这时候如果 someone 真的对 sees them 这个是 very meaningful。

I would also describe myself as an introvert, and i feel like it's very common for people who are like quieter or shyer to be misunderstood, because maybe you don't stand up for yourself as much.

I would also describe myself as an introvert, and i feel like it's very common for people who are like quieter or shyer to be misunderstood, because maybe you don't stand up for yourself as much.

But yes, when you finally, you know, feel seen or like that person really sees who you are, it feels great, it feels so good to be seen.

But yes, when you finally, you know, feel seen or like that person really sees who you are, it feels great, it feels so good to be seen.

所以理解万岁啊，understanding or seeing someone seeing someone is everything.

所以理解万岁啊，understanding or seeing someone seeing someone is everything.

yes and this next one it kind of summarizes a lot of what we just spoke of which is i feel you.

yes and this next one it kind of summarizes a lot of what we just spoke of which is i feel you.

能感同身受啊，they can feel your pain they can feel your frustration 是吧 they can feel whatever you are feeling 不光是 understanding 还有一种我们说的情绪共鸣。

能感同身受啊，they can feel your pain they can feel your frustration 是吧 they can feel whatever you are feeling 不光是 understanding 还有一种我们说的情绪共鸣。

So at face value, this means emotional resonance, but more commonly we would use the term empathy or empathize.

So at face value, this means emotional resonance, but more commonly we would use the term empathy or empathize.

I can empathize with you.

I can empathize with you.

yes, yes, you can empathize with someone.

yes, yes, you can empathize with someone.

You can also empathize with like a situation that they are going through, and very often we use this metaphor: I have been.

You can also empathize with like a situation that they are going through, and very often we use this metaphor: I have been.

In your shoes i know what that's like.

In your shoes i know what that's like.

或者直接可以说 i've been there 对吧？

或者直接可以说 i've been there 对吧？

就我也曾经经历过很相似的。

就我也曾经经历过很相似的。

yeah i've been there so you know i really empathize and i really you know feel for you.

yeah i've been there so you know i really empathize and i really you know feel for you.

i feel for you 啊，我们前面说的 i feel you 其实我们也可以说 i feel for you。

i feel for you 啊，我们前面说的 i feel you 其实我们也可以说 i feel for you。

可能对方经历了一些 loss，比如，yes，对他很重要的一个人去世了，过世了。

可能对方经历了一些 loss，比如，yes，对他很重要的一个人去世了，过世了。

然后这个时候你要表达那种，oh i feel for.

然后这个时候你要表达那种，oh i feel for.

you um it is probably gonna be more regarding something sad that happened right or maybe if they were wronged and you know they're just upset at something you can also say like yeah i feel for you 对.

you um it is probably gonna be more regarding something sad that happened right or maybe if they were wronged and you know they're just upset at something you can also say like yeah i feel for you 对.

就很多这种情况呢，是你也给不了对方什么很实际的帮助。

就很多这种情况呢，是你也给不了对方什么很实际的帮助。

但是，the best thing you can say is probably just i feel for you.

但是，the best thing you can say is probably just i feel for you.

Right 好，那在看完了那么多，我觉得真的是感同身受啊，真的是很深层次理解，get 对方的表达之后呢，我们最后今天要分享的这两个比较的呃 light-hearted。

Right 好，那在看完了那么多，我觉得真的是感同身受啊，真的是很深层次理解，get 对方的表达之后呢，我们最后今天要分享的这两个比较的呃 light-hearted。

就比较的轻松，然后可能在日常，特别让我想到了 friendship，就好朋友的时候。

就比较的轻松，然后可能在日常，特别让我想到了 friendship，就好朋友的时候。

that's right and this first phrase very commonly used is on the same page.

that's right and this first phrase very commonly used is on the same page.

You see things similarly 是吧？

You see things similarly 是吧？

然后呢你们的观点想法都蛮像的，很有默契。

然后呢你们的观点想法都蛮像的，很有默契。

and i think a very humorous way to almost describe the opposite being completely different you could even say like hey are we even reading the same book 哦呦。

and i think a very humorous way to almost describe the opposite being completely different you could even say like hey are we even reading the same book 哦呦。

这个这个问题更大了，不光是不在同一页上面，连看的书都不一样。

这个这个问题更大了，不光是不在同一页上面，连看的书都不一样。

Hmm like you just so different right but being on the same page means you really are speaking each other's language you get them and you could even say we're on the same wavelength.

Hmm like you just so different right but being on the same page means you really are speaking each other's language you get them and you could even say we're on the same wavelength.

你们的频率，你们的频道是一样的啊。

你们的频率，你们的频道是一样的啊。

or as the young kids say nowadays i vibe with you 是吧？

or as the young kids say nowadays i vibe with you 是吧？

we vibe together.

we vibe together.

Yes we vibe you know 对.

Yes we vibe you know 对.

vibe 也是和 wavelength 一样，就是有那个频道波长的意思是吧，so we vibe 就同同样的。

vibe 也是和 wavelength 一样，就是有那个频道波长的意思是吧，so we vibe 就同同样的。

exactly。

exactly。

好的，那我们今天的节目就到这儿。

好的，那我们今天的节目就到这儿。

那戴安娜，哦，i feel so lucky to be able to record with you again because i definitely feel like we vibe。

那戴安娜，哦，i feel so lucky to be able to record with you again because i definitely feel like we vibe。

哈哈，same here the feeling is mutual。

哈哈，same here the feeling is mutual。

好，那我想我们听众里面肯定在你的生命里也有这样啊，和你 on the same wavelength vibe together。

好，那我想我们听众里面肯定在你的生命里也有这样啊，和你 on the same wavelength vibe together。

See you hear you 的人，那就 yes 感恩他们，今天给他们发一个 hey thank you 是吧？

See you hear you 的人，那就 yes 感恩他们，今天给他们发一个 hey thank you 是吧？

that's right we often forget to you know thank people that are very important to us or express gratitude i know i often forget to do that myself so you know just send a quick thank you or i'm grateful for you message.

that's right we often forget to you know thank people that are very important to us or express gratitude i know i often forget to do that myself so you know just send a quick thank you or i'm grateful for you message.

To your favorite.

To your favorite.

people 嗯，好，那我们今天的节目就到这，感谢大家的收听，我们下次再见。

people 嗯，好，那我们今天的节目就到这，感谢大家的收听，我们下次再见。

that's it for today until next time bye.

that's it for today until next time bye.