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我是安德鲁·胡伯曼,斯坦福大学医学院神经生物学和眼科学教授。
I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.
现在,开始我和安迪·加尔平博士的对话。
And now for my discussion with Dr. Andy Galpin.
加尔平博士、教授,非常高兴你能来。
Dr. Professor Andy Galpin, super excited to have you here.
你在体能训练和针对特定目标与成果的优化方面,简直是一座巨大的知识宝库。
You're such an immense treasure trove of information on physical training and optimizing for specific goals and outcomes.
我或者任何其他人,应该如何评估自己的体能水平,真正判断自己是否已经达到应有的最佳状态,既为了健康也为了表现?
How should I, or anyone else for that matter, think about their level of fitness in terms of really assessing whether or not I'm as fit as I could be and should be, both for sake of health and performance?
说到运动,人们通常有两个主要目标。
When it comes to exercise, people generally have two major goals in mind.
第一个目标是达到某种外观。
Goal number one is achieving some sort of appearance.
就是说,我想变得壮一点,或者我不想太壮,或者我想变得精瘦。
This is, I want to be big, or I want to not be too big, or I want to be lean.
几乎每个人都会在意自己的外表。
There is an aesthetic component to almost everybody.
他们希望自己看起来是某种样子,或者不是某种样子。
They want to look a certain way or not look a certain way.
另一个目标是功能性,也就是说,我希望自己能有某种表现。
The other one is functionality, so I want to be able to perform a certain way.
当然,这个定义因人而异。
Now, again, that definition differs per person.
比如我想在力量上变得更强。
So I want to be better at strength.
我想在灵活性上变得更好。
I want to be better at mobility.
我想整天都精力充沛,诸如此类。
I want to be able to have energy throughout the day, whatever it is.
所以,大家既追求外形,也追求功能。
So there's some sort of appeal to aesthetic, and there's some sort of appeal to functionality.
在这两类目标里,我们得搞清楚,训练该往哪个方向走,才能既达到现在的健身和健康目标,又能长期保持下去。
So within both of those categories, we want to be in a position where we can understand, where do I need to go with my exercise training so that I can be as fit and as healthy and achieve these goals that I want now, as well as be in a position where I can maintain them for a long period of time.
这就把眼前的目标结合起来了,比如你只想深蹲大重量,或者想跑出最好的五公里成绩。
So this blends both immediate goals, so say you're just interested in squatting a lot of weight, say you're interested in running a 5K time, the best you want.
这些都无所谓。
It doesn't matter.
同时还要结合对长期健康的追求,希望一辈子都保持好状态,尽可能长久地实现这些目标。
It blends that with the desire to have a long wellness span, to be fit throughout life, to achieve all those things for as long as possible.
所以问题又回到:我怎么知道该重点练哪方面?为什么我没达到目标?或者怎么才能更有效地达到?
So then the question kind of comes back to saying, "Well, how do I know which area I need to focus on the most, and why am I not achieving these goals, or how can I get there more effectively?"
从大局来看,我们要明白,体能训练有几个主要组成部分,这些在所有目标里都是必需的。
And if we look at the big picture, we have to understand that there are several major components to physical fitness that are going to be required in all of these categories.
要达到这些,有几个关键要素必须做到。
And to achieve that, there are a handful of components that have to happen.
所以今天我想做的,就是在我们讨论的过程中,把那些概念具体讲清楚,然后介绍一大堆不同的方法。这些方法我们可以讲上几个小时,但我们会针对不同的目标,讲其中一部分。
So what I'd love to do today is, over the course of our discussion, is hit exactly what those concepts are and then cover a whole bunch of different methods, and we could do that for hours, but we'll cover a number of them for various goals.
通过锻炼,人们可以在身体上产生哪些主要的适应性变化?
What are the major adaptations that one can create in their body using exercise?
生理上的适应性变化,其实可以归纳为九个方面。
The physiological adaptations can be bucketed really into nine areas.
第一个,我称之为技能或技巧。
So the very first one is what I call skill or technique.
比如,跑步跑得更有效率。
This could be running more effectively.
或者练习一项技能,比如投篮、投掷器械、挥高尔夫球杆,诸如此类。
This could be practicing a skill like shooting a ball or an implement, swinging a golf club, anything like that.
我称之为技能发展。
I call that skill development.
第二个是速度。
The second one is speed.
所以这其实就是以更高的速度移动,或者以更好的加速度移动。
So this is simply moving at a higher velocity or with a better rate of acceleration.
这和下一个很相似,就是爆发力,爆发力等于速度乘以力量。
That's very similar to the next one, which is power, and power is speed multiplied by force.
接下来当然就是力量或强度了。
The next one then, of course, on top of that, is force or strength.
这两个词其实是一个意思。
Those are really synonymous terms.
你能多有效地移动某个东西?
How effectively can you move something?
不过,力量常常被误认为是肌肉耐力。
Now, this is often confused, strength rather, as muscular endurance.
我的意思是,力量真正衡量的是你能移动的最大重量,或者你一次能产生的最大力量。
So what I mean by that is strength truly is a marker of what's the maximum thing you can move, or it's the maximum amount of force you can produce one time.
第五个是肌肉肥大,这是我们第一次谈到外观,而不是功能效果。
Number five is muscle hypertrophy, and this is the first time now we're talking about an appearance rather than a functional outcome.
这是第一个纯粹看肌肉有多大的指标,也就是肌肉肥大或肌肉尺寸。
This is the first one that's just simply how big is your muscle, and that's muscle hypertrophy or muscle size.
接下来是肌肉耐力。
After that is muscular endurance.
这指的是你通常能完成多少次重复动作。
So this is how many repetitions you can typically do of a movement.
比如你能连续做多少个俯卧撑,一分钟内能做多少个仰卧起坐。
So think of how many pushups in a row you can do, how many sit-ups in a minute you can do.
这些通常是在五到五十次重复的范围内,而且几乎总是局部肌肉。
Things that are typically in five to 50 repetition sort of range, and it is almost always local muscle.
俯卧撑测试实际上就是你的三头肌、胸肌和三角肌能做多少次。
A pushup test is really how many reps that your triceps and pecs and deltoids can do.
这不是心血管耐力。
It is not a cardiovascular endurance.
也不是全身性的生理耐力。
It is not a global physiological endurance.
它通常只针对一个或几个肌肉群。
It's specific to typically one or a few muscle groups at a time.
所以这就是为什么你需要对每个部位做多项测试。
And this is why you have to do multiple tests for sort of every group there.
接下来,我们进入第七项,我称之为无氧能力。
After that, now we've moved into number seven, which is what I call anaerobic capacity.
这更接近于最大心率的概念。
This is more synonymous with maximum heart rate.
现在我们关注的不是单一动作或肌肉群,而是整体的生理极限。
And now we're actually looking at, rather than a single movement or muscle group, it is a total physiological limitation.
它指的是你在30到45秒,甚至可能长达120秒的全力运动中,能完成的最大工作量。
It is the maximum amount of work you can do in, say, 30 to 45 seconds, maybe even up to 120 seconds of all-out work.
想想经典的间歇训练那种类型。
Think of your classic interval type of stuff here.
也就是说,在最大强度下你能做多少功,同时会带来巨大的全身性疲劳。
So how much work can you do at a maximum rate where you're going to enter tremendous amounts of global fatigue?
接下来是最大有氧能力,这大概是在八到十五分钟的范围内,你会达到最大心率,同时也会达到真正的最大摄氧量。
Then next pass that is maximal aerobic capacity, and this is probably something like in the eight to 15-minute range, where you're going to reach probably both a maximum heart rate as well as a true VO2 max.
这和之前那个不一样,这个不是几秒钟就能达到的。
So that is different from the previous one, where you can't reach this in a matter of seconds.
要达到真正挑战最大摄氧量的状态,或者让它成为指标,确实需要几分钟的时间。
It simply takes multiple minutes to get to a position to where your VO2 max is actually going to be sufficiently challenged or an indicator there.
最后一个是第九项,我称之为长时间耐力,就是你能持续进行次最大强度的工作,长时间不间断,也不降低强度。
And then the last one, number nine, is what I call long duration, and this is just your ability to sustain submaximal work for a long period of time with no breaks, no reduction whatsoever.
这通常被称为稳态训练,或者很多人一想到所谓的有氧运动,就会想到这个。
This is often called steady-state training, or a lot of people just think of this when they think of, quote-unquote, cardio.
但你能持续运动,不休息、不改变、不下降,这是最后一项适应能力。
But your ability to continue movement without any breaks or change or drop is the last and final adaptation.
所以,如果看一个最低标准,通常是我们所说的20分钟,但更常见的是20到60分钟。
So really, if you look at a kind of a minimal number, there, it's generally 20 minutes of what we're looking for, but a more typical would be 20 to 60 minutes.
但超过这个时间,还是会受到长时间耐力的限制,也就是你持续工作的能力。
But anything past that would still be limited by your long-duration endurance, so your ability to sustain work over time.
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确保你获得优质睡眠的最佳方法之一,就是确保睡眠环境的温度适宜。
One of the best ways to ensure you get a great night's sleep is to make sure that the temperature of your sleeping environment is correct.
这是因为,为了入睡并保持深度睡眠,你的体温实际上需要下降大约一到三度。
And that's because in order to fall asleep and stay deeply asleep, your body temperature actually has to drop by about one to three degrees.
而为了醒来时感觉精神焕发、充满活力,你的体温实际上需要上升大约一到三度。
And in order to wake up feeling refreshed and energized, your body temperature actually has to increase by about one to three degrees.
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I've been sleeping on an Eight Sleep mattress cover for nearly five years now, and it has completely transformed and improved the quality of my sleep.
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This is what I'm now sleeping on, and I absolutely love it.
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你能给我们讲讲你之前提到的九种不同的适应方式,并给我们一个评估自己在每种适应中水平的方法吗?
Can you walk us through the nine different adaptations that you mentioned earlier and give us a way to assess our level of adaptation in each of those nine?
好的。
All right.
我们要谈的第一个是运动技能。
The very first one we want to talk about is movement skill.
这主要是关于人体的运动,让你避免受伤,并且能尽可能长时间地继续训练。
This is really about human movement so that you stay injury-free and you can continue to train for as long as possible.
那么最低要求是什么呢?
So what are the minimum requirements?
如果你能找到一位高水平的物理治疗师或运动专家,那是最好的途径。
Now, if you can have access to a highly qualified physical therapist or movement specialist, that's the best route.
去找他们,让他们评估你的所有运动模式,比如过头推举、深蹲、跑步等等。
Go to them, have them identify all of your movement patterns, overhead pressing, squatting, running, all these things.
这是黄金标准。
That's your gold standard.
如果你想自己来,这里有一个非常简单的四步方案。
If you want to do it yourself, though, here's a very simple four-step solution.
我教这个的方法是逐个关节来看。
So the way that I teach this is I go joint by joint.
我主要关注几个大关节:肩膀、手肘、下背、髋部、膝盖和脚踝。
And so I think of this just as the major ones, your shoulder, your elbow, your low back, hip, knee, and ankle.
好的,你可以选一个能代表你日常训练的动作。
Okay, now what you can do is do a representative movement for you.
比如你经常卧推,那就用卧推来测试。
So if you bench a lot, use the bench.
如果你做引体向上,那就用引体向上。
If you do pull-ups, use the pull-up.
如果你练深蹲,那就做深蹲。
If you squat, do that.
我建议做上肢推、上肢拉、下肢推和下肢拉各一个动作。
I would recommend doing an upper body press, an upper body pull, a lower body press, and lower body pull.
比如俯卧撑、引体向上或划船、深蹲,再加上硬拉。
An example would be a pushup, a pull-up or a bent row, a squat, and then a deadlift.
然后录一个正面视角和一个侧面视角。
And record a frontal view and a side view.
每个角度大概做三到十次。
Probably do three to 10 repetitions per angle.
明白吗?
Okay?
要慢一点,控制好,然后你要注意四个关键点。
Slow and controlled, and you want to look for four key things.
第一,你要看对称性。
Number one is you want to look for symmetry.
对称性就是前后、左右,还有你的右肢和左肢。
So symmetry is front to back, left to right, and your right limb and your left limb.
如果它们不是完全同步,那没关系,但你要看的是,是不是一个比另一个更超前?
If they aren't moving perfectly, that's fine, but you want to see is one moving further ahead than the other one?
是不是一个转向一侧,而另一个没有?
Is one turning to the side and one's not?
是不是有一条腿在不停地抖动或者乱动?
Is one fidgeting and twitching around differently?
所以你要观察一下,确保他们身体是稳定的。
So you want to look just to check to see and make sure that they're stable.
第二点,你要看稳定性。
Number two, you want to look for stability.
关键指标就是,比如你做深蹲,如果膝盖开始发抖,那就说明稳定性有问题。
So key indicators here are things like if you can't go through a squat, a controlled squat where your knees don't start shaking, that would be an instability issue.
所以你能慢慢做这个动作吗?
So can you do the movement slow?
你能在最低点停住吗?停三秒、五秒或者十秒?
Can you pause at the bottom, maybe three seconds, maybe five seconds or 10?
你应该能完全控制这些关节的动作。
You should have complete control of that movement at all of these joints.
站起来的时候,你的髋部会不会往一边歪?
Are your hips sliding to one side when you stand up?
卧推的时候,是不是一个手肘离身体更近,另一个却往外张?
Is one elbow closer to your body when you're benching and the other one's more flared out?
我说的就是这些,对吧?
These are the things I'm talking about, right?
我不在乎它们应该是什么角度。
I'm not worried about what angle they should be at or not.
你只需要看有没有不对称或者不稳定的情况。
You're simply looking for asymmetries or instabilities.
好,再说一遍,当你往上推的时候,是不是有一个手肘开始乱晃、抖动,到处乱跑?
All right, so again, as you're pushing up, does one elbow start flipping and twitching and going all over the place?
第三点,我称之为“意识”。
The third one is what I call awareness.
很多动作技术上的问题,其实就是人们根本不知道。
There are a lot of movement technique issues that simply people don't know.
所以你会看他们做深蹲。
And so you'll watch them squat.
我上课的时候经常这么做。
I do this in my classes all the time.
我让一百个孩子在那儿做深蹲,你会看到一些糟糕的深蹲姿势,然后你只要告诉他们:“嘿,你意识到深蹲的时候脚跟应该一直踩在地上吗?”
I'll have 100 kids out there squatting, and you'll see some horrible squat technique, and then when you just tell them, "Hey, did you realize your heels are supposed to be on the ground at all times when you squat?"
他们就会说:“哦,好的。”
They're like, "Oh, okay."
然后他们就能纠正过来。
And they can correct it.
这其实不是动作上的缺陷。
It's not actually a movement flaw.
只是意识上的问题。
It was just simply an awareness.
我之前不知道,也没意识到在那个姿势下会发生这种情况。
I didn't know, and then I actually didn't realize that that was happening in that position.
所以我们希望所有的关节都能进行全面的活动范围训练,这是第四点。
So we want all of our joints to be going through a general full range of motion, which is number four.
所以,在深蹲的时候,脚踝这块,你的膝盖应该尽量往前超过脚尖,同时保持好姿势,脚掌平贴地面,保持三个接触点,整个脚掌都要踩实,而且不能影响其他关节。
So the ankles, during a squat, your knee should be able to go as far over your toe as possible while maintaining good position, your feet flat on the floor, your three points of contact, your whole foot foot, and you're not compromising another joint.
所以你要关注的就是这四点:对称性、稳定性、意识,还有每个关节在每个动作中的活动范围。
So that's all you're going to look for, those four things, symmetry, stability, awareness, and range of motion through each joint, through each movement.
一般来说,你只需要一两次动作,几秒钟就能把这些都看清楚。
You can generally kind of clear these things in one or two repetitions in a couple of seconds.
我只看四种情况:完全不行、根本做不了、有小瑕疵、或者基本接近标准。
I just look for absolutely terrible, can't do it at all, minor flaw, or pretty close to good.
这就是我关注的全部。
That's really all I'm looking for.
所以我的评分标准是零分、一分、三分。
So my scoring system is zero, one, three.
零分就是你不应该做这个动作,因为你急性受伤的风险很高。
Zero is you're not going to do this exercise because you're at a very high acute risk.
可能明天做第一次就会受伤。
You might get hurt on rep one tomorrow.
得一分的话,就是这里有个小问题。
A score of one is there's a minor flaw here.
我们大概可以做,但要注意负荷和训练量。
We can probably do it, but we need to be cautious of load and volume.
另一种情况是,动作可能完美,也可能不完美,但可以按合理的方案去做。
The other one is maybe it's perfect, maybe it's not, but go ahead and sort of do it on a reasonable protocol.
你会没事的。
You'll be fine.
所以,这基本上就是你需要做的,一种零成本的方法,用来评估你在任何训练中的动作质量。
So that's generally what you would need to do is a cost-free method of identifying good movement technique within any of the things that you would do.
那速度呢?
What about speed?
其实我觉得这个不是大多数人应该测试的。
I actually don't think this is one most people should test.
如果你是高水平运动员,我们可以跑40码冲刺,或者如果你练举重,可以用杠铃上的速度传感器做其他测试。
If you're a high-performance athlete, we can run a 40-yard dash, or we can do some different things with a velocity transducer on a barbell if you're a weightlifter or something.
对大多数人来说,纯速度其实就是最大速度或者加速度,我们通常从这两个方面来分解。
For most people, pure speed is really maximum velocity or acceleration are kind of the two ways we break it down.
一般来说,这个不太需要测试。
It's generally not that necessary to test.
那第三个,力量呢?我记得你之前跟我说过,力量就是速度乘以力,对吧?
What about number three, power, which I believe before you told me was speed times force?
这个不用花钱的测试方法就是简单的立定跳远。
The cost-free version here is a simple broad jump.
就是站好,正常姿势,然后尽可能往前跳,量一下从起点到你落地时脚后跟的距离。
So this is stand, normal position, jump out as far in front of you as you possibly can, and measure the distance between where you started and the back of your heel where it lands.
一个非常基本的参考标准就是你的身高。
A super basic number to look for there is your height.
也就是说,你应该能跳到和你身高差不多的距离。
So you should be able to broad jump how tall you are.
如果你身高5英尺5英寸,那你应该能跳到5英尺5英寸,6英尺5英寸,以此类推。
If you're 5'5", you should hit 5'5", 6'5", et cetera.
这个标准对女性来说会稍微降低一点,大约降低15%。
That's going to ratchet down A little bit, about 15% for females.
女性总体上就是没有男性那么强的爆发力,所以你需要把这个标准稍微调低一些。
They just simply don't have the power in general that men have, and so you're going to want to bring that down a little bit.
但这只是一个粗略的参考数字。
But it's a very crude number.
如果你看看高水平的NFL球员,如果他们身高六英尺,他们能跳九到十一英尺远。
If you were to look at a high-performance NFL player, if they're six feet tall, they're going to be jumping nine to 10 to 11 feet.
我们在这个测试中并不是追求最佳表现。
We're not looking for optimization in this particular test.
你要关注的是那些警示信号。
What you are looking for are red flags.
如果你能跳出自己身高的距离,那就完全没问题了。
If you can jump your body height, you're going to be just fine.
需要说明的是,这里没有助跑。
To clarify, there's no running approach here.
你要站在一个静止的位置。
You're going to stand at a still.
对,你可以随意摆动、弹跳,想怎么动都行。
Yeah, you can swing, bounce as much as you'd like to do.
然后你会向前跳出去。
You're going to projectile off.
所以你要测量从你的脚尖到落地时最后面的点的距离,基本上就是站在线后面,然后量你落地时最后面的位置。
So you're going to measure the distance from the tip of your toe, so basically stand behind the line, and then the furthest point back where you land.
所以基本上,是取最差的成绩,不是最好的,因为你的脚不会对称落地。
So basically, the worst possible score, not the best possible, because your feet won't land symmetrically.
可能一只脚会稍微远一点。
One's probably going to be a little bit farther.
就用你后脚跟最后面的点来算。
Just use the furthest point back of your back heel and go from there.
那力量方面呢?
What about strength?
所以力量真的很重要。
So strength is really important.
你需要在多个方面测量它,我们先从握力开始。
You need to measure this in multiple areas, and we'll start off with grip strength.
有两种方法可以测。
You can do this in two ways.
你可以买一个握力计。
You can buy a hand grip dynamometer.
现在这种握力计价格大概在20到100美元之间。
Now, these are anywhere between $20 to $100 anywhere.
其实以前我上学的时候,这些要几百美元,现在随便在哪个网站上花25美元就能买到。
These actually used to be, when I was in school, hundreds of dollars, and now you can literally buy them on any website for 25 bucks.
所以严格来说,这不算零成本。
So technically, that's not cost-free.
我知道你一直强调零成本方案,但25美元,我觉得基本可以算零成本了。
I know your whole thing about the cost-free protocols, but 25 bucks, I'm calling that basically cost-free.
你可以买一个来测试,那是个小设备,你握住它用力挤压,然后左右手都要测。
You can bring that in and test that, and that's just a little device where you're going to squeeze, and you're going to do-- And I would do your right hand and your left hand.
它会给你一个以公斤为单位的数值。
They're going to give you a value in kilograms.
你至少要达到40公斤的最低标准。
You want to look for something like a minimum score here of 40 kilograms.
理想情况下,超过60公斤就很不错了。
Ideally, you're up past 60, would be a really good spot to be in.
你要确保左右手的差异不超过10%。
You want to make sure that there's no less than 10% variation between your left and right hand.
在这个测试中,你的非惯用手其实不应该弱太多。
Your non-dominant hand actually shouldn't be that much weaker in this test.
所以很多时候你会发现,非惯用手反而可能更强,因为惯用手更多用于精细动作,比如写字之类的。
So what you'll actually see a lot of times is the non-dominant can be oftentimes stronger because the dominant hand is more for movement precision, writing, things like that.
如果你是男性,握力测试低于40公斤,那我们就需要训练这个了。
If you are a male and you're under 40 kilograms on a hand grip dynamometer, we're going to need to train that.
如果是女性,标准也不会低太多,但大约35公斤是临界点。
If you're a female, it's not that much lower, but about 35 kilograms is the cutoff point.
另一个可以做的测试就是悬垂。
Another one that you can actually do is just a dead hang.
你可以抓住任何一根杠,最好是细到能让你整个手都握住的。
So you can hold onto any bar, ideally one that is thin enough to where you can wrap your whole hand around it.
比如去健身房,随便找一个引体向上杠或者架子跳上去。
Something like going to the gym and jumping on any pull-up bar or pull-up rack.
一般来说,我们应该能至少悬挂30秒,这是我们的目标。
In general, we should be able to hang for a minimum of 30 seconds, is what we're looking for.
30到50秒算不错,但可能还能更好。
30 to kind of 50 seconds is my good, but we could probably get better here.
如果你能轻松超过60秒,我通常就很满意了。
If you're cruising above 60 seconds, I'm generally pretty happy.
不过,如果你体型特别大,这个标准就不完全适用了。
Now, if you are exceptionally large, this thing doesn't scale perfectly.
如果你有240磅,即使你很瘦,要挂住240磅的体重也很难。
If you're 240 pounds, and even if you're lean, it's just hard to hang and hold 240 pounds.
反过来,如果你只有145磅,即使你不健康,你也能挂很久。
Conversely, if you're 145 pounds, even if you're unhealthy, you're going to be able to hang for a long time.
毕竟那点重量不算什么。
It's just not that much weight to carry.
所以这些只是大概的起始数字。
So just rough numbers to start off with.
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I'd like to take a quick break and acknowledge our sponsor, AG1.
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也就是说,我早就开始每天吃它了,那时候我甚至还不知道播客是什么。
That means I discovered it and started taking it daily long before I even knew what a podcast was.
我一直在吃,也一直在播客里推荐它,因为它确实是个很好的配方,现在AG1 Pro让这个配方更好了。
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注意,Back2Routine里的Back是数字2那个back。
So that's with a numeral two, Back2Routine.
直接去drinkag1.com/huberman就行。
Just go to drinkag1.com/huberman.
所以,这就是握力。
So that's grip strength.
那身体其他部位的力量呢?
What about strength elsewhere in the body?
如果你想的话,可以做上肢力量测试,虽然严格来说我们不常做这个。
You can do an upper body strength test if you would like, although it's not technically something we do very often.
我通常更感兴趣的是腿部伸展测试,我喜欢这个的原因是,杠铃深蹲更好。
What I'm generally more interested in is a leg extension test, and the reason I like this is a back squat is better.
杠铃深蹲——你看,那是我的拿手好戏。
A barbell back squat is-- Look, that's my jam.
那是我的生活,对吧?
That's my life, right?
它只是对技术要求很高,而且很有挑战性。
It's just very technically demanding, and it's challenging.
你需要保护者。
You need spotters.
你需要舒适感。
You need comfort.
这里面涉及的东西很多。
A lot goes into this.
所以对普通人来说,腿屈伸测试是比较标准化的。
So for the average person, a leg extension test is fairly standardized.
不用担心技术问题,大家可以直接上手做。
You don't have to worry about technique, and people can just get into it and go.
所以你要看的是几个需要达到的标准。
And so what you want to look for there is a couple of standards you want to hit.
再说一遍,一个很简单的答案就是自身体重。
Again, a very simple answer here is body weight.
你能用自身体重做腿屈伸吗?
Can you do a leg extension with your body weight?
这是一个相当不错的水平,你应该达到。
That's a pretty good number you want to be at.
如果你超过40岁,每过十年,这个标准可以降低大约10%,你仍然处于一个相当不错的位置。
If you go up in age past age 40, every decade, that can come down about 10%, and you'll still be in a pretty good slot.
所以如果你50岁,体重170磅,能做到160磅,那就已经很不错了。
So if you're 50 years old, and you're 170 pounds, if you can do 160, you're in a pretty good sort of spot.
然后,同样地,40岁以后每过十年,再往下调10%就行。
And then you can just, again, take it down about 10% every decade after 40.
这些力量测试,不一定非得做到严格意义上的最大重量一次。
Any of these strength tests, they don't have to be done to a technical true one-rep max.
你可以用所谓的重复次数换算公式。
You can use what are called repetition conversion equation.
就是选择一个你觉得接近你最大重量的负荷,然后尽可能多做几次。
So put on a load that you think is kind of close to your maximum, and just do it for as many reps as you can.
只要总次数不超过五次,你就可以上网,随便找个计算器输入数据,它会告诉你:“好的。
As long as it's under five reps total, you can then actually go online and enter that into any number of calculators anywhere, and it will tell you, "Okay.
你做了三次,每次200磅。
You did three repetitions at 200 pounds.
你的最大重量大概是215磅。”之类的。
Your one-rep max is probably 215," or whatever.
所以有估算公式。
So there's estimate equations.
如果你不想花时间,或者你不太敢真的去测自己的最大重量,那就找一个接近的重量,尽量多做几次,然后上网查。
So if you don't want to spend the time or you're not truly comfortable absolutely going to your true one-rep max, just get to a number that's fairly close and do as many as you can, and then go online.
再说一遍,网上到处都是最大重量估算公式。
Again, one-rep max estimator equations are everywhere.
如果你做的次数超过五次左右,这些公式的准确性就会开始下降。
If you get past five repetitions or so, the accuracy of those equations starts going down.
所以别拿个重量做十二次,然后想算出你的最大重量是多少。
So don't put on something and go, "I did 12 reps of it," and then try to figure out what your one-rep max.
那样会接近,但不会太准。
It'll get close.
一旦超过那个次数,准确性就会越来越差。
You start moving past that, you're just getting worse and worse and worse accuracy.
如果这两种方法都不行,我还很喜欢另一种,就是前蹲或者高脚杯深蹲的静力保持。
If neither of those are an option, another one I like a lot here Is simply a front squat or a goblet squat hold.
所以你要在胸前抱一个重量,壶铃在这里很好用,哑铃也可以,重量大约是你体重的一半,然后下蹲到最低点,试着保持这个姿势大约45秒。
So you're going to hold a weight in front of your chest, whether a kettlebell is great here, a dumbbell is fine here, and you want to hold about half of your body weight, go all the way to the bottom position, and try to hold that for about 45 seconds.
所以这能很好地反映你的姿势,第一点。
So it's a pretty good indicator of, number one, your position.
在这么大的负荷下保持那么久,很难保持错误的姿势,同时也能考验核心力量和腰部稳定性。
It's hard to be in a bad position for that long at that load, as well as core strength and low back stability.
这比腿屈伸更难,但实用得多,而且能让你了解很多方面,不仅仅是股四头肌。
It's more difficult than the leg extension, but it's quite a bit more functional, and it's going to give you insight into a lot more areas than just the quadriceps.
所以就是在深蹲底部保持45秒——
So 45 seconds down at the bottom of the squat-
对。
Yep
……然后回到站立姿势。
... and then returning to a standing position.
对。
Yep.
如果你没法站起来,我其实不太担心。
And if you can't do the return, I actually am not that worried.
只要你能在45秒内保持那个好姿势,没有技术变形,那就已经很不错了。
But as long as you can hold that good position without a technical breakdown in that 45 seconds, that's a really good spot.
作为入门,我建议用你体重的三分之一,坚持30秒。
As an intro, I want a third of your body weight for 30 seconds.
关于力量训练,有几点需要注意。
It's important to add a couple of caveats to the strength training stuff.
我想强调两点。
So there's two that I want to do.
第一,这些训练都假设你的技术动作已经很熟练了。
Number one, these are assuming you are technically proficient.
所以,如果你对自己的技术动作还不放心,就不要做任何力竭或最大力量的训练。
So I don't want you to do any exercise to exhaustion or to maximum strength if you're not comfortable with your technique.
所以请根据你的情况适当调整。
So adjust these accordingly.
如果你不习惯做前蹲,那就做腿屈伸。
If you're not comfortable with the front squat, do the leg extension.
如果那个也不习惯,就换别的动作。
If you're not comfortable with that, do something different.
所以我们绝不想在可能导致严重急性损伤的情况下进行最大力量测试。
So we never want to utilize maximum testing if it's going to come with a consequence of serious acute injury.
这是最重要的一点。
So that's the most important flag.
第二点是,你的热身方案会极大地影响你的实际测试结果。
The second one is your warm-up protocol will have a huge effect on your actual results.
所以每次做这些测试时,尤其是如果你打算以后再做一次同样的测试,一定要确保热身方案是标准化的。
And so whenever you do these tests, especially if you're going to do a test and then a test again down the line, you want to make sure that that warm-up protocol is standardized.
那增肌呢?
What about hypertrophy?
这里你要注意的是,增肌有审美方面的考量。
So the thing you want to pay attention to here is you have the aesthetic portion of hypertrophy.
这完全取决于你自己。
That's entirely up to you.
没有固定的道理。
There is no rationale.
你可以自己决定你觉得好看或不好看。
You can decide what you feel like looks good or doesn't look good.
那不重要。
That's irrelevant.
你需要有足够的量,低于这个量对你的健康有害,不管你的目标是什么。
There is a sufficient amount you need to have, where below that is detrimental to your health, regardless of your outcomes.
所以最好的方法有几种。
And so the best way to do this is a couple of ways.
任何体成分测试都能做到这一点。
Any sort of body composition test can do this.
比如通过像DEXA扫描这样的扫描,这是金标准,或者其他生物电阻抗方法,或者其他方式。
So whether this is a scan, through like a DEXA scan, which is a gold standard, or other ways of bioelectrical impedance, or other ways.
所以有很多不同的测试可以做,结果都挺接近的。
So there's a ton of different tests you can get that are pretty close.
好的,当你做DEXA扫描时,要注意一个叫FFMI的数字,就是去脂体重指数。
Okay, so what you want to pay attention to when you get a DEXA scan is a number called FFMI, and so that stands for Fat-Free Mass Index.
你可以再看一下,网上有很多计算器。
So you can look at, again, any number of online calculators.
这些都是标准化的,所以在哪里查其实无所谓。
These are all standard, so it doesn't actually matter where you pull them up.
你不用担心查到的结果准不准或者怎么样。
You don't have to worry about looking it up and whether or not it's right or not, or something.
这个数字会告诉你肌肉量是否足够。
And so that's going to actually tell you if you have sufficient muscle mass.
一般来说,你要看的数字是,如果你是男性,FFMI应该在20或以上。
And so a number you want to look for, in general, is something like if you're a man, your FFMI should be something like 20 or higher.
如果你是女性,大概在18左右。
If you're a woman, you want to look for something like 18.
所以这些就是目标值。
So those are the targets.
如果你是男性,超过24、25的话,那肌肉量就相当多了,前提是你体脂比较低。
If you get past 24, 25 for a man, that's a lot of muscle mass, assuming you're reasonably lean.
不过,如果你的FFMI是24、25,但体脂率是40%,那你其实只是块头非常大。
Now, if your FFMI is 24, 25, but your body fat is 40%, you're actually just a very, very large individual.
你的状态并不好。
You're not in a great spot.
所以当我们说这些数字时,是假设男性体脂率大概在30%以下,女性在35%以下。
So when we say these sort of numbers, it's the assumption that you're probably sub-30% body fat for a man and sub-35 for a woman.
所以这些就是参考数字。
So those are the numbers.
网上有计算器。
There are online calculators.
你只需要知道你的总体重、体脂率和身高就行了。
All you really need to know is your total body weight, your body fat percentage, and then your height.
你输入这三个数字,它们就会告诉你你的FFMI分数,并且会修正出一个调整后的值。
You can enter those three numbers, and then they'll tell you your FFMI score, and it'll correct for an adjusted value.
然后大多数计算器还会告诉你评分标准,比如好、一般、差等等。
Then most of those will actually tell you the grading rubric, and then it's like good, average, bad, et cetera.
但这就是我们参考的数值。
But those are the numbers we look at.
如果你是男性,低于17;女性,低于15,那我们就进入了肌肉量严重不足、对身体造成明显损害的区间。
If you are, as a man, sub-17, as a woman, sub-15, now we're in an area of pretty severe physiological detriment for insufficient muscle.
那肌肉耐力呢?
What about muscular endurance?
你是不是要告诉我该去做靠墙静蹲了?
Is this where you're going to tell me I need to do wall sits?
这个其实挺不错的。
So this is really nice.
你可以做很多种测试。
You can do any number of tests here.
标准平板支撑。
A standard plank.
你能保持前平板支撑60秒吗?
Can you hold a front plank for 60 seconds?
你能保持侧平板支撑45秒吗?
Can you hold a side plank for 45 seconds?
如果你能做俯卧撑,对于一般男性来说,我们应该能轻松连续做25个以上。
If you're able to do a pushup, we want to be able to do, again, for a general male, we should have no problem doing 25-plus consecutive pushups.
这要求顶部肘部完全锁定,底部胸部完全触地或接近触地。
This would be a full, complete lock out of the elbows on the top and a full chest touch, or close to it, at the ground.
你可以用不同的方式做。
You can do it different.
其实怎么都行,但如果你想记录进步,从测试前到测试后保持标准一致就好。
It doesn't really matter, but just keep it standard from your pre-test to your post-test if you're trying to mark progress.
那女性呢?
And for females?
所以对这些人群来说,标准会稍微降低一些。
So for those folks, that's going to scale down a little bit.
基本上,女性以15个为基准,就像男性以25个为基准一样,我希望看到超过15个。
So basically, you're looking at 15 as that marker, like 25 was for the male, where I want to see above 15.
如果能做到,那就没问题。
And if I do, we're good.
5到15个之间属于一般水平。
Anything between 5 to 15 is the number of like, okay.
如果低于5个,通常说明有些问题;如果从1个降到0个,那0个就是问题了。
If you're sub-5, we generally have some problems, and if that is different between one and zero, then zero is a problem.
所以我们应该能做到这个标准。
So we should be able to do that.
另一种评估肌肉耐力的方法是,直接采用五分钟前那次谈话中你做的力量测试。
The other way to assess muscular endurance is take the exact strength test you did from the talk five minutes ago.
你当时做的是哪个?
Which one did you do?
把重量加到75%,然后尽可能多做几次。
Load that to 75%, and then do that for as many repetitions as you can.
这是衡量肌肉耐力的一个非常好的指标。
And that is a tremendous barometer of muscular endurance.
所以如果你在腿屈伸测试中能举起200磅,那就用75%的重量,尽可能多做几次。
So if you were able to do 200 pounds on your leg extension test, put 75% on that, and do that as many repetitions as you can.
你要看能不能超过八次。
You want to look for more than eight repetitions.
如果低于八次,那说明你的肌肉耐力有问题。
If you are below eight repetitions, then we have a muscular endurance problem.
那无氧能力呢?
What about anaerobic capacity?
这个就更难测了。
This one's more challenging.
要么你得去实验室做像温盖特测试那样的项目。
You either have to go to a laboratory and do something like a Wingate test.
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这是一个30秒的极限测试,看看你在那30秒内能完成多少工作量。
So this is a 30-second maximal test where you're going to see how much work can you possibly do in that 30 seconds.
如果你没有实验室条件,可以用任何你喜欢的方案来做。
If you don't have access to a laboratory, you can do this on any protocol you want.
可以是冲刺跑。
This could be sprinting.
可以是风阻单车。
This can be on an air bike.
也可以是划船机。
This could be on a rower.
只要是能让你全力发挥、又不用担心技术问题的运动都行。
Anything like that, anything where you can exert maximal effort, and you don't have to worry about technical problems.
所以我一般不太推荐像壶铃摆动这类动作。
So I generally don't like to do things like a kettlebell swing or something like that.
因为变量太多了。
There's just too many other variables.
你得拼尽全力,哪怕你知道自己会累到不行。
You need to be able to go as hard as you possibly can, knowing you're going to get to a place of tremendous fatigue.
在实验室里,我们常用博斯科测试法,就是站在测力台上,尽可能快地、尽可能高地连续做垂直跳,持续60秒,到第45秒的时候你基本就废了。
Now, in the lab, we often use what's called a Bosco protocol, and you're going to stand on a force plate, and you're going to do as many vertical jumps as fast as you can, as high as you can- For 60 seconds, and you're absolutely destroyed by second 45.
所以我们要么用温盖特测试,要么用博斯科测试。
So we either use that Wingate protocol or that Bosco protocol.
不过如果你想的话,也可以选其他方式,30秒左右,或者45秒,甚至一分钟都行。
If you want, though, again, take any of those other places, 30 seconds or so, up to 45 seconds, up to a minute if you want.
其实差别不大。
It doesn't really matter.
这些项目没有统一标准,因为情况各不相同。
We don't really have standards for these things because it's going to be different.
比如在跑步机上30秒能跑多远,跟你在户外冲刺或者骑动感单车完全是两码事。
How far you can travel in 30 seconds on a treadmill is just going to be so different than sprinting in the field or on the assault bike or whatever.
所以关键是你能不能坚持完成,以及做完之后有多难受。
So what you really want to worry about there is can you complete it, and then how awful do you feel afterwards?
所以这里你真正要考虑的不是那些测试方案,而是这个。
So what you really want to think about here is not those protocols, but this.
你要考虑的是,你能不能接近你预测的最大心率?
You want to think about can you get close to your predicted maximum heart rate?
我们常用的一个数字是220减去你的年龄。
So the number we throw out is 220 minus your age.
比如你50岁,220减50,你的最大心率应该能达到每分钟170次左右。
So if you're 50 years old, 220 minus 50, you should be able to get to a maximum heart rate of around 170 beats per minute.
不过,这个数字其实非常笼统。
Now, that number is extremely generic.
如果你达不到这个数字,并不代表你的体能有问题。
If you don't get there, that doesn't have any indication of your fitness.
如果你超过了,也不意味着你更健康。
If you get higher, that doesn't mean you're any more fit.
它只是一个大概的参考值。
It's just a rough number.
所以,我想让你这样做。
So here's what I want you to do.
在这种情况下,心率恢复是更好的指标。
In this case, your heart rate recovery is the better metric.
所以,我希望你达到最大心率,然后测试你的心率恢复。
So I want you to get up to a maximum heart rate, and then test your heart rate recovery.
你应该关注的是,大约每秒钟恢复半拍。
And what you should be looking for there is about a half a beat recovery per second.
你要让自己达到完全精疲力竭、极度疲劳的状态,然后测一下心率,再开始数。
You're going to get up to a place where you reach absolute terrible exhaustion, maximum fatigue, test your heart rate, and then count.
同时开个计时器。
Have a timer going.
在60秒内,你应该再次达到每秒半拍的速度。
Within 60 seconds, you should have, again, that half a beat per second.
你的心率恢复应该是每分钟30次。
You should have a heart rate recovery of 30 beats per minute.
接下来一分钟内,也就是两分钟恢复期,应该再减半,也就是60次。
Within the next minute, so two-minute recovery, it should be again half that, so 60 beats.
这些是大致的参考数字。
Those are rough numbers to go by.
三分钟恢复期,再减半。
And your three-minute recovery is, again, half of that again.
这是最接近的方法。
So that is the closest way.
如果你的心率恢复比这个差,那我们就知道你的无氧能力或心血管能力有问题了。
If your heart rate recovery is worse than that, then we know we have a problem in your anaerobic capacity or your cardiovascular capacity.
那第八项,最大心率呢?
What about number eight, maximal heart rate?
因为你刚才描述的听起来很像最大心率。
Because what you just described sounds a lot like maximal heart rate.
这就是你的最大摄氧量。
So this is your VO2 max.
所以最标准的方法就是去实验室里做这个测试。
So the gold standard here is to actually go into a laboratory and get this thing done.
我们可以做一个最大摄氧量测试,你戴上口罩,收集你呼出的所有气体,然后让你跑到极限。
So we can actually run a VO2 max test where you put a mask on, collect all your gases, and run you to there.
完成真正的最大测试有非常具体的流程,任何科学家都知道这一点。
And there is a very specific protocol for completion of a true maximum test, and any of the scientists will know that.
如果你没有条件做这个,你可以做几个其他测试。
If you don't have access to that, you can do a couple of tests.
其中一个叫做12分钟库珀测试。
One of them is called a 12-minute Cooper's test.
这个很简单,就是计时。
So this is simply time.
你要跑12分钟,尽可能跑远,然后记录你跑的距离。
You're going to run for 12 minutes as far as you can, and you're going to record the distance you covered.
同样,你可以上网找任何计算器,输入那个距离,它就会告诉你估算的最大摄氧量。
Again, you can go online to any number of calculators, enter that distance in, and that will tell you your estimated VO2 max.
所以那是12分钟的冲刺跑?
So that's a 12-minute sprint?
对,12分钟冲刺跑。
12-minute sprint.
就是12分钟内你能跑的最远距离。
Maximum distance you can cover in 12 minutes.
根据你的体能水平,大概在一英里到两英里多之间。
So that's anywhere between a mile to two-plus miles, depending on how fit you are.
你就做那个库珀12分钟测试就行。
But you just do that Cooper 12-minute test.
如果你想的话,可以做个稍微轻松点的版本。
If you want, you can do a little gentler version of that.
其实还有一个一英里步行测试。
In fact, there is a one-mile walk test you can do.
这种情况下,你需要有个秒表,最好再有个心率监测器。
In this case, you have to have some sort of either a stopwatch or ideally a heart rate monitor.
你只需要做的就是,这是一个一英里步行亚极量测试。
And all you have to do is, this is a rock-poor one-mile submaximal test.
所以你要走一英里,记录时间,结束时记录心率,把这些数据输入进去,它们会再次给出你的最大摄氧量估算值。
So you're going to walk a mile, record the time, record your heart rate at the end, enter those in, and those will give you, again, estimates of your VO2 max.
所以这就是那种“天哪,我没办法全力跑12分钟”或者“我不想跑”的情况,或者我们在高管项目里经常遇到这种情况。
So that's the "Oh my gosh, I can't run for 12 minutes as hard as I possibly can," or, "I don't want to do it," or we have a lot of these in our executive program.
就像“我的膝盖疼得太厉害了。
It's like, "My knee hurts too bad.
我一跑步就背疼”之类的。
I've got back pain when I run" or whatever.
“我能……”好吧。
"Can I..." Okay.
然后你就做步行测试。
And you do the walk test.
如果做得正确,这个测试是相当准确的。
And it's pretty accurate if you do it correctly.
再说一次,这些都是标准的计算方法,所以你在哪里看到这些,都不用担心来源问题。
And again, those are all standard calculations, so anywhere you find those, you don't have to worry about the source.
你只要输入你的数据,它们就会用同一个公式来计算。
So you just enter your stuff in, and they're going to be running off the same equation.
我想快速插播一下,感谢我们的赞助商之一,David。
I'd like to take a quick break to acknowledge one of our sponsors, David.
David做的蛋白棒跟其他任何品牌都不一样。
David makes protein bars unlike any other.
他们最新的Bronze Bar,含有20克蛋白质,只有150卡路里,而且零糖。
Their newest bar, the Bronze Bar, has 20 grams of protein, only 150 calories, and zero grams of sugar.
我得说,这是我吃过最好吃的蛋白棒,而且这些年我试过很多蛋白棒。
I have to say, these are the best-tasting protein bars I've ever had, and I've tried a lot of protein bars over the years.
这些新的David蛋白棒有棉花糖基底,外面裹着一层巧克力。
These new David bars have a marshmallow base, and they're covered in chocolate coating.
它们真的超级好吃。
And they're absolutely incredible.
我当然也吃正常的天然食物。
I, of course, eat regular whole foods.
我吃肉、鸡肉、鱼、鸡蛋、水果、蔬菜等等。
I eat meat, chicken, fish, eggs, fruits, vegetables, et cetera.
但我也坚持每天吃一两根David能量棒当零食,这样很容易达到每磅体重一克蛋白质的目标。
But I also make it a point to eat one or two David bars per day as a snack, which makes it easy to hit my protein goal of one gram of protein per pound of body weight.
这样我就能摄入所需的蛋白质,而不会摄入多余的热量。
And that allows me to take in the protein I need without consuming excess calories.
我喜欢所有David Bronze Bar的口味,包括曲奇面团、焦糖巧克力、双重巧克力、花生酱巧克力。
I love all the David Bronze Bar flavors, including Cookie Dough, Caramel Chocolate, Double Chocolate, Peanut Butter Chocolate.
它们吃起来真的都像糖果棒。
They all actually taste like candy bars.
再说一次,它们太棒了。
Again, they're amazing.
但同样,它们不含糖,而且只有150卡路里,却含有20克蛋白质。
But again, they have no sugar, and they have 20 grams of protein with just 150 calories.
如果你想试试David,可以去davidprotein.com/huberman。
If you'd like to try David, you can go to davidprotein.com/huberman.
现在David有个优惠活动,买四箱就送一箱。
Right now, David is offering a deal where if you buy four cartons, you get the fifth carton for free.
你也可以在亚马逊或者Target、沃尔玛、Kroger这些实体店找到David。
You can also find David on Amazon or in stores such as Target, Walmart, and Kroger.
再说一次,想免费拿第五箱,就去davidprotein.com/huberman。
Again, to get the fifth carton for free, go to davidprotein.com/huberman.
第九点,长时间稳态运动。
Number nine, long-duration steady-state exercise.
对。
Yep.
所以你真的要把它看作不是一个固定的数字。
So you really want to think about this as not a standard number.
而是你应该保持持续稳定的运动输出超过20分钟。
This is you should maintain consistent work output for over 20-plus minutes.
这个呢,我希望你选一个你生活中本来就有的活动。
And this one, I want you to just pick something that it was in your lifestyle.
比如你家附近有没有一条可以绕圈的路线?
So is there a loop around your house that you can do?
或者有没有你平时喜欢用的某种训练方式?
Is there some protocol that you like to use for?
你只需要测试一下自己,能不能不休息地持续运动。
And you're simply going to test your ability, can you maintain work without stopping?
就这么简单。
That's all it needs to be.
不过呢,我个人喜欢加点小挑战,就是能不能只用鼻子呼吸来完成。
Now, ideally, I personally like to throw a little twist in here, which is can you do this with nasal breathing only?
那样我感觉特别舒服。
That's when I feel really good.
如果你能连续30分钟不休息,那走路可能就不算数了,除非你身体非常差,如果走路30分钟不休息对你来说都有挑战,那也行。
If you can go 30 straight minutes without needing to take a break, walking doesn't really cut it unless you're very, very unfit, in which case, if walking 30 minutes without a break is a challenge, okay, there.
但如果可以的话,我希望你以非步行的速度移动。
But if you can, I want you moving at a non-walking pace.
我不在乎这是哪个区间,二、三、四、五。
I don't care what zone this is, two, three, four, five.
我不在乎。
I don't care.
向我展示你能至少连续工作20分钟,没有休息,没有间歇,没有停顿,而且理想情况下,只用鼻子呼吸。
Show me you can maintain minimum of 20 minutes of work with no breaks, no intervals, no downtime, and again, ideally breathing through your nose only.
我们应该多久评估一次这些方面的体能?
How often should we be assessing our fitness for each and every one of these?
嗯,我的建议是每年做一次完整的测试。
Well, the way that I would say this is, I would recommend doing this full battery once a year.
其实,这些测试理论上可以在两天内完成。
Now, you could do these technically all in two days.
但分成三天来做可能是最好的。
A three-day split here is probably best.
所以如果你就说,"嘿,这周是测试周。"
So if you were to just say, "Hey, this is testing week."
我其实很喜欢在年初,或者在你调整训练计划的时候做这个。
I actually love this for beginning of the year, or whenever it is that you sort of change your training.
就像每年一次,你可能应该去看医生,做一次全面的血液检查。
Just like once a year, you should probably go to a physician and get full blood work.
你可能会想,"是啊,但我不想那周放弃我的锻炼计划。"
You're going to be thinking, "Yeah, but I don't want to give up on my exercise routine that week."
但我保证,这周结束后你不会觉得"我这周没怎么练"。
Well, I promise you're not going to finish this week and think, "I didn't do very much work this week."
你会感觉很好,然后你就有个很好的参照,知道接下来一个季度或半年,你的训练重点该放在哪里,或者你想怎么调整。
It's going to feel great, and then you're going to have a very nice barometer of exactly where you need to change and prioritize your training for the next quarter or half a year, or wherever you want to go.
那么,按什么顺序做这些测试呢?
So, which order to do them in?
不累的测试你随时都可以做。
The non-fatiguing tests you can do whenever.
FFMI、体脂率这些指标,什么时候测都行。
The FFMI, the body fat composition, all this stuff can be done wherever.
不过我个人喜欢把它放在第一项。
I generally like to do that, though, as your very first activity.
原因是,我们知道急性运动会影响体成分测量,比如炎症、水分滞留等等。
The reason is, we know that acute exercise can heavily influence things like body composition measurements because of inflammation, water storage, et cetera.
所以最好在休息48小时后再测。
So it's easiest to just sort of get that off of a 48-hour rest.
你要确保体成分测试前一天不做剧烈运动,最好提前48小时也别做。
You want to make sure you don't do any hard exercise the day before a body composition test, and probably 48 hours before that.
所以就从这项开始吧。
So just start yourself off with that.
动作测试也一样。
Your movement test can be the same thing.
如果你因为残酷的深蹲测试而浑身酸痛,那就不适合再做深蹲评估了。
You don't want to try to do an assessment of how well you're squatting if you're incredibly sore from your brutal squatting test.
所以尽量在状态最好的时候做这些测试。
So tend to do those things when you're the most fresh.
然后,任何技巧、最大力量或爆发力的测试都应该安排在一天的最开始。
Then what you want to do is any skill or maximum strength or power goes at the very beginning of the day.
任何容易让人疲劳的项目就放在最后。
Any fatiguing thing happens at the end.
这样安排起来其实很简单。
And so you could easily do this.
好的。
All right.
我先做爆发力测试,也就是立定跳远。
I'm going to do my power test, my broad jump.
这个测试完全不会让你感到疲劳。
You're not going to be fatigued at all from that.
同一天,既然我已经充分热身了,就直接接着做腿部力量测试。
And on the same day, since I'm already pretty warmed up, now I'm going to roll right into my leg strength test.
而且因为我已经充分热身了,我就在这儿直接做腿部肌肉耐力测试。
And since I'm really warmed up, I'm going to do my leg muscular endurance test right there.
这是我们很常用的一种策略。
So this is a very common strategy we use.
我们会先做单次最大重量的腿屈伸,休息五分钟、七分钟,看需要多久。
We'll do our one-rep max leg extension, five minutes, seven minutes, whatever we need to do.
回来之后,把重量加到75%,然后尽可能多做几次。
Come back, load it to 75%, do as many reps as you can.
搞定。
Boom.
然后你可以接着做上肢测试,或者握力测试,或者任何你想做的项目。
You could roll right into then your upper body test or your grip strength test or anything else that you want to do there.
这样你就能在同一天把力量测试和肌肉耐力测试都搞定。
So you can knock out your strength testing and muscular endurance testing all in one day.
你可以完成表现诊断、弹跳测试、力量和肌肉耐力,所有这些都能一次搞定。
You could do your performance diagnostic, your power jump test, your strength, and your muscular endurance, and all that stuff is knocked out.
你得改天再来做无氧测试。
You're going to have to come back on a separate day and do your anaerobic test.
就是30秒最大耐力之类的。
This is 30 seconds maximal endurance, things like that.
不过如果你想的话,也可以放在长时间测试之后做。
You could, though, if you wanted, do that after your long duration test.
长时间测试呢,基本上就当个大热身。
Your long duration test, again, is just going to function as like a big warm-up.
或者你可以把顺序换一下,或者分开几天做。
Or you could flip those things, or you could do them on separate days.
VO2最大摄氧量测试基本上得单独一天做,除非你想在那之前先做动作筛查或者身体成分测试。
You're going to have to do your VO2 max test on its own day, for the most part, unless you wanted to do, again, your movement or your body composition sort of before those things.
所以其实你可以灵活搭配。
So you really have the ability to kind of mix and match.
理想情况下,最现实的做法大概是分三天完成。
Ideally, this most realistically probably takes three days.
你不需要在所有方面都达到最优,才能算是所谓的“最佳健康状态”。
You don't need to be optimal in all these areas to be, quote-unquote, "optimal health" from this perspective.
你只需要确保没有严重的表现短板。
You just want to make sure, again, there's no severe performance anchors.
这是我们给它们起的名字。
This is what we call them.
我们不希望有任何这些严重的限制,因为你会被那个东西拖累。
We don't want any of these severe constraints because you're going to get limited by that thing.
所以你要做的是把它提升到“足够”或“令人担忧”的水平。
And so what you want to do is move that up to just sufficient or concerning.
让它远离那个严重限制。
And get it away from that.
如果你做到了,那个东西就不会拖住你。
If you do that, that thing's not going to catch you.
你就能继续追求你特别感兴趣的任何方面的优化,这通常是推动人们前进的动力。
You're going to be able to continue to pursue optimization in any of the things that you have a specific passion for, which is generally what moves people.
你训练是为了感觉更好。
You train so that you feel better.
你训练是因为你知道它有很多好处,而且,天哪,这个听众可能能列出上百个。
You train because you know there are all these benefits to it, and, geez, this audience probably could list hundreds of them.
但你也训练,因为你通常喜欢在某件事上变得更好。
But you also train because you generally like to get better at something.
我们很多人都有自己擅长的事情,所以你要确保自己不会说:“嘿,我知道你擅长耐力,但你真的不应该再训练了。”
A lot of us have something, and so you want to make sure that you're not going, "Hey, I know you're good at endurance, but you really shouldn't train anymore."
我们不想要那样的信息。
We don't want that message.
完全不想。
Not at all.
我希望你热爱你的训练。
I want you to love your training.
所以在结束之前,我想回去把最大摄氧量的指标讲完,因为我觉得我还没给你具体数字。
So before we close out, I want to go back and finish off the metrics for VO2 max, because I don't actually think I gave you numbers on that.
一般来说,男性最低要达到每分钟每公斤35毫升,女性大约是30。
So in general, for men, a minimum number we want to look at here is 35 milliliters per kilogram per minute, and for women, that'd be about 30.
其实这些数值可以高很多。
We can actually push a lot higher on those things.
实际上,我希望男性超过50。
In reality, I want to see men above 50.
而且除非超过55,否则我还不算太满意。
And I'm not even really stoked until I get above 55.
事实上,如果我希望男性超过55,那我也真的希望女性超过50。
In fact, if I want to see men above 55, I really want to see women above 50.
我想在今天讨论中再加一个指标,这其实是我表达感谢的方式,因为如果有一个衡量每句话信息量的指标,你肯定处于最高水平。
I want to add just one more metric to our discussion today, which is really just my way of saying thank you, because if there were a metric for amount of useful information per sentence spoke, you would be at the upper level of that metric.
你有一种惊人的能力,能把这么多知识讲得清晰简洁,而且今天还列出了条目,既有趣,又有科学依据,还能付诸实践。
You have this amazing ability to provide so much knowledge in a clear and concise, and today, listed-out format that is both interesting, grounded in science, and actionable.
所以,代表所有听众,当然也代表我自己,我只想说声谢谢。
So on behalf of everyone listening, and certainly for myself as well, I just want to say thank you.
谢谢你的夸奖,我也很期待下次的对话,直接进入速度、力量和增肌训练的话题,聊聊这些领域里有哪些基于证据的最佳实践方案。
Well, I appreciate the compliments, and I'm looking forward to the next conversation, jumping right into speed, strength, and hypertrophy training, and what are the evidence-based and best practices for protocols in those areas.
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